I’m sure some RNS readers have seen Ed Wosika’s article taking Keith’s system to the next level, but yesterday was the first time I saw it. Setting it aside for some serious study later.
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Yes. Yes. Yes.
If Elmer Keith designed it, it probably works, but, even though I read EVERY word and pored over EVERY drawing and the Table, it occurs to me that you are dependent on maintaining the separate focus of your two different eyeballs, and the BRAIN does NOT like to do that. You have to TRAIN THE BRAIN to make the eyes work together like that. I have a Finnish Sunnto sighting compass that must be used that way, and even though I practice with it almost every time I take my boat out (sighting on navigation landmarks), I’m here to tell you that making that “apparent” lubber’s-line cross the magnifier so as to read the compass within a degree is DIFFICULT. The eyes just don’t want to focus on separate objects INDEPENDENTLY, they want to drift back to the MASTER eye-predominate way of vision, which won’t work with this sighting system.
I can’t begin to imagine just how to do that training of the eye, nor can I say how long it would take, nor could I predict what effect using aged eyes 67 years old might have on the system.
This system WILL work for SOME people who can train themselves properly.
Now, that .44 Magnum Ruger Vaquero looks like it might just be the next revolver I want, after all.
I know this is old, but when I first read Wosika’s article it was FASCINATING to me, and I started playing around with the math by establishing an MOA or mil system with the front sight measurements relative to sight radius (including windage) using a Crosman 1377, and I can’t believe how much fun I’ve had applying it for longer ranges and even rangefinding. It really is a fun gun-related mathematical experimentation, and surprisingly successful.
As a follow up, Steve (sscoyote) commented elsewhere (https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2017/04/long-range-handgun-shooting/) as follows:
“Interesting that few mention the math behind the sight reference for long-range open-sight pistol shooting using the front sight system Elmer did. Took me awhile but I finally nulled it all out several years ago after reading Roger Clouser and Ed Wosika writings. It’s just the following– front sight height x 3440 (for MOA, 1000 for mil) / sight radius (front sight to rear sight unless target is placed at top of front sight then it’s front sight to eye). Now calc. a ballistics program for your load and apply the MOA or mil calcs to the front sight vs. sight radius system. As an example my 1377 with iron sights calcs out to 80 MOA. My MOA ballistics profile is calcd for a 10.5 gr. pellet at 400 fps. I have made many shots to ranges of even 80 yds. using this system often on the 1st shot.
Rangefinding is just as much fun using the front sight measurements and the sight radius (to your eye). Substitute the measurements into the mil-ranging formula, and it will surprise the daylights out of you when it works (with larger tgt sizes).”